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This meeting will be virtual; details of the teleconferencing system are to be determined.

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Day 1, Tuesday October 19 2021

Time (Project)TopicCoordinatorPre-meeting notesRunning notes

Moderator: 

Notetaker: 

09:00WelcomeWil O'Mullane



09:15Project news and updatesWil O'Mullane

09:30Low hanging fruit milestones and how can we claim them We have a bunch of milestones that can be closed with a bit of work that keeps getting put off or for lack of the formal testing being completed. Let's go through them and come up with a plan. 





10:30Break

Moderator: Wil O'Mullane 

Notetaker: 

11:00Verification plan through oend of constructionPicking up what I should have presented at an earlier F2F meeting (but got ill) 
12:00How can we finalise Data IDs?






12:30Break
Moderator: Notetaker: 

1:00

Consolidated DB or equivalent


1:45

Sizing



14:00 Close

Day 2 October 20 2021

Moderator: 

 Notetaker:
9:00

Requirements on user batch



9:30RSP policy issues

10:00Terminology 

10:15Focus FridayIan Sullivan 

10:30   Break

Moderator: Wil O'Mullane 

Notetaker: 

11:00


Risks 



11:30Status part I


12:30

Break

Moderator: Notetaker:

1:00


Status part II



1:45Wrap up 


2:00Close



Proposed Topics

TopicRequested byTime required (estimate)Notes
Requirements on user batch30DM Science will present requirements on user batch. dmtn-202.lsst.io
How can we finalise Data IDs?Frossie Economou 30One of the biggest obstacles we have to putting VO services into (Rubin data) production is the fact that we do not have an agreed format for Data IDs uniquely identifying our data products. This information exists in a dict, but we don't have a scheme for converting it to a string. Let's discuss the complications and come up with a plan. 
Low hanging fruit milestones and how can we claim them Frossie Economou 60We have a bunch of milestones that can be closed with a bit of work that keeps getting put off or for lack of the formal testing being completed. Let's go through them and come up with a plan. 
Consolidated DB or equivalentFrossie Economou 45

We need a plan on how to get observation metadata somewhere where VO services can get them - this means probably the Consolidated DB (though, crazy idea, Butler registry seems to know most of this stuff?) Right now nobody seems to own this and be working it so we have to come up with an actionable plan. 

KTL: Isn't this DM-30853?

RSP policy issuesFrossie Economou 30User data guarantees, backwards compatibility promises, hybrid model impacts etc. 
Verification plan through oend of construction60Picking up what I should have presented at an earlier F2F meeting (but got ill) 
Focus FridayIan Sullivan 15

I am getting more feedback from developers getting frustrated by some aspects of Focus Friday. Note that these concerns are mostly addressed by the open support channels and by instructing them on how to use Slack's "Schedule for later" feature.

Sizing15What changes in data products or pipeline step complexity or memory usage are known or anticipated?  What is the plan for DM-22082?
Terminology15What else should we change while changing the default branch?


Attached Documents


Action Item Summary

DescriptionDue dateAssigneeTask appears on
  • Frossie Economou Will recommend additional Level 3 milestones for implementation beyond just the DAX-9 Butler provenance milestone.   
15 Mar 2022Frossie EconomouDM Leadership Team Virtual Face-to-Face Meeting, 2022-02-15 to 17
  • Kian-Tat Lim Convene a meeting with Colin, Tim, Robert, Yusra to resolve graph generation with per-dataset quantities (likely based on Consolidated DB work).  
18 Mar 2022Kian-Tat LimDM Leadership Team Virtual Face-to-Face Meeting, 2022-02-15 to 17
  • Frossie Economou Write an initial draft in the Dev Guide for what "best effort" support means  
17 Nov 2023Frossie EconomouDM Leadership Team Virtual Face-to-Face Meeting - 2023-Oct-24
  • Convene a group to redo the T-12 month DRP diagram and define scope expectations Yusra AlSayyad 
30 Nov 2023Yusra AlSayyadDM Leadership Team Virtual Face-to-Face Meeting - 2023-Oct-24
11 Dec 2023Gregory Dubois-FelsmannDM Leadership Team Virtual Face-to-Face Meeting - 2023-Oct-24
02 May 2024Frossie EconomouDMLT Meeting - 2024-04-22
22 May 2024 DMLT Meeting - 2024-04-22
  • Richard Dubois USDF part in data facilities for PSTN-017 and distrib processing ? 
22 May 2024Richard DuboisDMLT Meeting - 2024-04-22
22 May 2024Fabio HernandezDMLT Meeting - 2024-04-22
  • Tim Jenness - section on middleware for PSTN-017  
22 May 2024Tim JennessDMLT Meeting - 2024-04-22
  • Cristián Silva - section on summit/data acquisition  for PSTN-017  
22 May 2024Cristián SilvaDMLT Meeting - 2024-04-22
Richard DuboisDMLT Meeting - 2024-04-29
  • Cristián Silva if you come to SLAC lets have plenty of photos of locks and racks etc ..
Cristián SilvaDMLT Meeting - 2024-04-29


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