Mondays 12pm - 12:50pm ET

Yusra's Zoom:

1.1.1. Attendees: 

1.1.2. Agenda:

  • Announcements:
    • Welcome Erik Dennihy!
  • Review Action items from last week
    • Fakes dashboard: stats have been made, but dashboard. Update due date
    • Erics logs: need to close loop on this
    • Generating sky frames: ticket created, questions on timing and scope. Maybe push off till post-Gen2. Should also consider need to coordinate with work on offsets. Might be pushed off.
    • Modify rho statistics: still need to work with Josh. Original code from pipe analysis was ported to faro.
    • Investigate rho stats ellipticity residuals: has to do with flags. May need Fred. PSFs with scarlet. There are issues, but Dan has not looked at rho statistics specifically, might be more generally informative on PSF issues
    • Add absolute astrometry metric. Will do in faro now that have capability to compare with refcats.
  • Review w_2021_30
    • What was noteworthy in this rerun?
      • Gen2( DM-31184 - Getting issue details... STATUS :  
        • a few run issues noted by Morgan on  DM-31184 - Getting issue details... STATUS  (but solved with the help of Yusra & Eli).  Memory issues with coaddDriver (solved by running with --node 2 --procs 12)
        • Lauren noticed a failed patch due to issues of  DM-31359 - Getting issue details... STATUS  which oddly occurred on a different tract/patch ID than for the gen3 run
          • See discussion on #dm-science-pipelines regarding negative pixels
      • Gen3 ( DM-31182 - Getting issue details... STATUS ):
        • issue of  DM-31359 - Getting issue details... STATUS
        • Brock's  pipelines/DRP.yaml#healSparsePropertyMaps,consolidateObjectTable,diffimDRP is taking a while to start. 
          hanging query.
        • Eli reports a query with ~120 collections, still running, might not complete. Running healsparse, consolidate, (something else). Eli will post on dm-middleware-dev the query. One database query. Known limitation for the system. Nate offers to help debug.
    • What changed? Annotate
      • now have GAaP colors:  something amiss with "optimal" flux vs. "PsfFlux" (all plots at
      • Arun Kannawadi to investigate
      • Pathologies that are different for galaxies and stars, and different for different datasets. Eli and Lauren have been looking into this. "optimal" = gaussian weight function matches the size of the source. PSF is optimal for point sources. Suggest to have another name than "optimal" to be clear about the algorithm.
      • While investigating error message (DM-31345). Arun found a minor bug that is fixing now before deeper investigation of plots.
    • What do we expect from w_2021_34? 
      • Changes toward Gen2-Gen3 parity:
      • What new metric can we expect next time
  • Review DC2
    • w_2021_28
      • lots of processing issues (memory limits, etc.)  Mostly resolved.  Had to setup master branch of meas_extensions_gaap
      • now have GAaP stellar locus plots: some issues under investigation on  DM-31322 - Getting issue details... STATUS  and  DM-31156 - Getting issue details... STATUS
      • still have parity through SFP
    • w_2021_32:
      • running only tract 3829
      • this made me sad: gen2 vs. gen3 SFM comparison (should be a flatline):
      • perusing the changelog led me to  DM-30820 - Getting issue details... STATUS .  It seems the change did not take effect for gen2 processing (config/imsim/ is not importing the newly added config/imsim/ Lee Kelvin  to confirm?
        • Suspect that related to background modeling where a step is applied or not applied between Gen2 and Gen3. Fill a ticket to add this step. This was a simple mistake.
      • plea to give some thought to changes to gen3 but not gen2 → avoid where possible, but if not feasible, please bring it up before merging (a decision may need to be made as to whether the merge should wait for gen2/gen3 parity is settled).
        • When do we get to the stage of where we break parity intentionally because of improvements in Gen3? Need to at least look at the coadd once to sign off on parity.
        • Two separate issues
          • Improvements to both Gen2 and Gen3
          • How much do results need to match? jointcal and fgcm are not deteministic. Scientific parity vs. bitwise / numerical / machine precision parity
            • It would be a lot of work to make FGCM work the same way in Gen2 and Gen3
          • Should jointcal and FGCM be deterministic / repeatable?
  • AOB

    1. Dispatching to SQuash
    We will start making use of the --date-created option when dispatching metrics to SQuaSH
    with After a lengthy debate on #dm-hsc-reprocessing
    all 2 votes opted for a format of:


    where all the x's come from the weeklies tag date found at:

    (so, e.g., for w_2021_32 it would be: --date-created 2021-08-05T08:29:00Z)

    Dan Taranu and Lauren MacArthur have created dashboards ( for the Gen3 and Gen2 DC2 runs (currently called DRP metrics monthly DC2 (Gen3/2to3, test-med-1) and  DRP monthly metrics for DC2 (Gen2), but we will homogenize that!). Simon Krughoff is clearing out all previous dispatched/uploaded metrics so that we can start from a clean slate and use the appropriate --date-created timestamps.

  • 2. Slurm Resources
    The resources available for gen2/slurm jobs have been severely restricted (and may
    imminently become further so). We are all supposed to be moving from gen2/slurm to
    gen3/bps. However, there are still a number of users of the former, so this is a
    friendly reminder (and plea) to start making that switch wherever possible. There
    is no ban on submitting jobs to the slurm cluster, but given the requirement to
    get through the gen2 RC2/DC2 reprocessing (for at least a few more weeklies...),
    you may be asked to ease off on personal runs during times of high traffic on the
    slurm cluster.

  • 3. Reduced gen2 processing
    Partly in light of the above slurm resource limitations, we have decided to
    decrease our gen2 processing by one tract per dataset. So, going forward (and
    starting with w_2021_32) we plan to fully process the following tracts in gen2:

    RC2: 9813 9697
    DC2: 3829

    If you have any reason to contest this (e.g. you know a given pathology only
    ever occurs in one of the omitted tracts), please shout!

    • FGCM is global fitting routine. All the tracts inform all the tracts.
  • Dashboards.
    • Create date. Use tag date for the weekly for timestamps on chronograf.
    • DC2 Gen3 dashboard.
    • Is it possible to file issue in chronograf to not use last 15 min as time window, but some other choice of time window as default
    • Currently on a single dashboard for both DC2 and HSC_RC2
      • Label everything with underscores instead of spaces for dataset name
      • Should we prune the set of tracts to select from?
    • psfPhotRepStar. Like PA1, but for 4 different signal to noise bins. The lowest SNR bin is 5-10, 10-20, ... Not sure why second bin in nan values.
    • We have a Gen3 dashboard!

1.1.3. Action Items

DescriptionDue dateAssigneeTask appears on
  • Add a plot with fakes stats to the dashboard. Sophie Reed 
04 Sep 2020Sophie ReedDRP Metrics Monitoring 2020-08-07
  • Sophie to add field in metric definition to hold thresholds. DM-43364 - Getting issue details... STATUS
DRP Metrics Monitoring 2024-03-18
  • Sophie: make a new list for outstanding analysis_drp plots that require moving, send to Jim
DRP Metrics Monitoring 2023-06-26
  • Clare: add analyzeMatchedVisitsCore to drp_pipe step8
DRP Metrics Monitoring 2023-06-26
  • turn catchFailures on in calibrate. Add flag to indicate that deblender failed because PSF is bad. 
DRP Metrics Monitoring 2022-10-31
  • Yusra AlSayyad Eric's account was deleted; we need to make sure he has all his logs. 
Yusra AlSayyadDRP Metrics Monitoring 2021-06-14
  • Arun Kannawadi Modify rho stats in pipe_analysis  to use debiased moments (see  DM-30751 - Getting issue details... STATUS ). 
Arun KannawadiDRP Metrics Monitoring 2021-04-19
Arun KannawadiDRP Metrics Monitoring 2021-03-01
  • Yusra AlSayyad Do a rerun with w50 PS1 refcat and one with shrunk refcat errors. 
Yusra AlSayyadDRP Metrics Monitoring 2021-01-04
  • Jeffrey Carlin Add an absolute astrometry match-to-refcat metric to dashboard  DM-34153 - Getting issue details... STATUS
Jeffrey CarlinDRP Metrics Monitoring 2021-01-04