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ItemWhoPre-Meeting NotesNotes and  Action Items
Project/Science Updates

Leanne Guy

Zeljko Ivezic

  • No PST meeting last week. 
  • All full proposals for community brokers accepted. 
  • Problems with u-band filters. Don't think it is measurement errors, hard to measure on the mountain (no photons) 
Photo-z

Melissa Graham

  • brief summary re. PZ, commissioning, SITCOMTN-010 (Keith Bechtol& Melissa Graham will explain)
  • DESC PZ WG and DM could mutually benefit from using their RAIL software (PZ evaluation infrastructure) to help the science community participate in PZ validation during commissioning.
  • At the stage of trying to get the community to write LoRs. Deadline is end Sept. 
  • Melissa thinking about the process of validation during commissioning as open . Zero-th level is to just use the released data products.  Could do better.  Want to do better an start making more specific plans. 
  • Which commissioning data will photo-z be done with. What teams do we need to set up if we want to use unreleased commissioning data. 
  • LPG: What are the use cases for early access to commissioning data. We have previously said that pz estimators will work with Object catalog data. 
    • MLG: 1: time  - we don't want people to have to wait until comissioning data is released? and 2) pz will have a more integrated role in commissioning 
  • RHL - interested in photo-z for testing photometry. Will be useful to have a competent redshift team working early to run testing early, e.g   to test galaxy photometry. 
  • Need to develop a plan for how people will join teams  during commissioning. 
  • CS: What is a sufficient threshold for involvement in photo-z to allow people to join? Key os to define this threahold and this and consider adding people  based on meeting a threshold of involvement. 
  • CS: Work on pz does not end with the end of commissioning - follow the formal manner initially, once we start releasing public products, anyone can be involved. 
  • Intercollaboration WG with DESC pz working group or using the DESC RAIL software. ICA picks out the key pieces of work to be done for DM to use with the commissioning data so that pz codes are wrapped in the RAIL infra, write pz metrics to work with RAIL. Code will need to be added for dm to use RAIL during commissioning, which one DM/DESC does. 
  • CS: Can we get a presentation from the RAIL team to tell us about their software?
  • CS: Not a good idea for DM to convert products to their format. Needless diversion. Rather get their sq to read our parquet tables - our products are easy to read and if they are not we should change them. 
  • LPG: This ICA defines a lot of work to be done by DM - we don't have the resources for this. Also looks like scope creep w.r.t our requirements 
  • MLG: We can  maybe use the directable in-kind effort. Need to define how the in-kind contributions work and how can we work with in-kind teams
  • Get back to DESC in September. 
  • Melissa GrahamLet DESC know that we will pick this up again in September  
  • Melissa Graham update dmtn-049 to state that all members of the photo-z redshift teams become part of the commissioning team.  
  • Melissa Grahamreach out to photo-z in-kind team to discuss how photo-z inkind contributions might work with RAIL.  
10 oldest DM-SST issuesLeanne Guy
  1. DM-20967 - Getting issue details... STATUS
  2. DM-20940 - Getting issue details... STATUS
  3. DM-19505 - Getting issue details... STATUS
  4. DM-21023 - Getting issue details... STATUS
  5. DM-15763 - Getting issue details... STATUS
  6. DM-21323 - Getting issue details... STATUS
  7. DM-20780 - Getting issue details... STATUS
  8. DM-13740 - Getting issue details... STATUS


AOB

Leanne Guy

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List of SST tasks (Confluence)

DescriptionDue dateAssigneeTask appears on
  • Robert Lupton Clarify the meaning of time in the object table. 1 sentence description in sdm_schemas, can link to a short DMTN.  Update 2022-02-09: Meeting to resolve this on 2022-02-21  
28 Feb 2022Robert Lupton2018-11-05 DM SST F2F Agenda and Meeting notes
  • Gregory Dubois-Felsmann check if SDM standardization is adequately represented in project documents, and whether DMTN-067 should be required.
31 Mar 2022Gregory Dubois-Felsmann2022-02-14 DM-SST Virtual F2F Agenda and Meeting notes
28 Feb 2023Leanne Guy2023-01-23 DM-SST Agenda and Meeting Notes
  • Leanne Guy talk to Steve R about presenting plans for the ShearObject table to PST and SciCollab chairs   
20 Mar 2023Leanne Guy2023-02-27 DM-SST Agenda and Meeting Notes
31 Mar 2023Jim Bosch2023-02-27 DM-SST Agenda and Meeting Notes
  • Leanne Guy  talk to Gregory Dubois-Felsmann to review the original intent of the AFS-related Portal requirements before deciding on a course of action  
29 May 2023Leanne Guy2023-05-01 DM-SST Focus Meeting - Brokers in Commissioning
  • Leanne Guy Prepare to consult the PST on the question of providing compressed PVIs for AP outputs, to cover the period before the data become available in a DR.  
02 Jun 2023Leanne Guy2023-03-27 DM-SST Agenda and Meeting Notes
  • Jim Bosch Incorporate 30-60 day period for raws on disk into the strawman proposal and present to KT  
26 Jun 2023Jim Bosch2023-05-08 DM-SST Agenda and Meeting Notes
  • Parker Fagrelius Patrick Ingraham  how long will it take to do a scan as described? No need to scan the whole WL range but will require additional points outside nominal lambda range.  
30 Jun 2023Parker Fagrelius2023-03-27 DM-SST Agenda and Meeting Notes
31 Jul 2023Colin Slater2023-07-10 DM-SST Agenda and Meeting Notes
  • Eli Rykoff , Leanne Guy  Develop a proposal for what calibration processing, hardware, data we actually need and what will be needed for DR1. This has implications for the ORR and for prioritisation of work in commissioning  
31 Jul 2023Eli Rykoff2023-01-30 DM-SST Agenda and Meeting Notes
  • Yusra AlSayyad will look to see if there is any effort to help on option 1  
28 Aug 2023Yusra AlSayyad2023-08-14 DM-SST Agenda and Meeting Notes
  • Jim Bosch  Provide a physical example of that a  up on cell table would look like fo the Colin Slater / DAX team to review  
31 Aug 2023Jim Bosch2023-02-27 DM-SST Agenda and Meeting Notes
  •  "What is the pathway to defining the data products that are required to meet DMS-REQ-0266" Jeffrey Carlin   
30 Nov 2023Jeffrey Carlin2023-10-23 DM-SST vF2F Agenda and Meeting Notes
30 Nov 2023Gregory Dubois-Felsmann2023-10-23 DM-SST vF2F Agenda and Meeting Notes
30 Nov 2023Leanne Guy2023-10-23 DM-SST vF2F Agenda and Meeting Notes
  • Jeffrey Carlin follow up with KT on DMS-REQ-0176 and DMS-REQ-0315 to update/disaggregate this for latest base/summit infrastructure split.  
30 Nov 2023Jeffrey Carlin2023-10-23 DM-SST vF2F Agenda and Meeting Notes
  • Jim Bosch Follow up on the possibility of investigating further the ability to process 2 collections in parallel.   
31 Jan 2024Jim Bosch2023-12-04 DM-SST Agenda and Meeting Notes
31 Jan 2024Jeffrey Carlin2023-12-04 DM-SST Agenda and Meeting Notes
Gregory Dubois-Felsmann2023-10-23 DM-SST vF2F Agenda and Meeting Notes