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Time

From 9.00 to 09.30 PT, Wednesday, August the 5th.


Attendees

Regrets

  • TBD

DMCCB Meeting Goals

  • See DMCCB responsibilities listed in LDM-294 section 7.4

DMCCB Additional Resources

Discussion Items

ItemDescriptionCCB Notes

Flagged RFCs

(To be approved by the DMCCB)

  • RFC-713 - Getting issue details... STATUS Planned end: Jul/31/2020
  • RFC-711 - Getting issue details... STATUS Planned end Jul/31/2020
  • RFC-710 - Getting issue details... STATUS Planned end Jul/28/2020
  • RFC-709 - Getting issue details... STATUS Planned end Jul/24/2020
  • RFC-708 - Getting issue details... STATUS Planned end Jul/24/2020
  • RFC-699 - Getting issue details... STATUS Planned end: Jun/03/2020
  • RFC-695 - Getting issue details... STATUS Planned end: Aug/31/2020
  • RFC-713: it should just be a procedural thing to approve the test cases already executed
  • RFC-711: no comments, the outcome seems to keep the document, but add an obsolete flag on top of it
    • CCB agreed to board recommend it. Tim Jenness commented.
  • RFC-710/RFC-709: Leanne is preparing the LCR. CCB should approve the RFCs before the LCR is submitted.
    • DMS-REQ-0066 needs to be resurrected. GPFD to review the original text. Leanne Guy to ping GPDF
    • 710 board recommend
    • 709 waiting for GPDF
  • RFC-708:
    • to keep it open for a couple of weeks more, until the final update from P6
  • RFC-699
  • RFC-695
Board Recommended RFCs

Adopted but not implemented LDM RFCs (only document RFCs)

Proposed RFCs

(to review, do not require DMCCB approval)

  • RFC-720 - Getting issue details... STATUS Planned end: Aug/5/2020
  • RFC-719 - Getting issue details... STATUS Planned end: Aug/6/2020
  • RFC-718 - Getting issue details... STATUS Planned end: Aug/7/2020
  • RFC-712 - Getting issue details... STATUS Planned end: Jul/31/2020
  • RFC-703 - Getting issue details... STATUS Planned end: Jun/30/2020
  • RFC-697 - Getting issue details... STATUS Planned end: June/11/2020
  • RFC-638 - Getting issue details... STATUS Planned end: Jun/7/2021
  • RFC-720: see AOB point.
    • Tim Jenness baseline environment needs to be approved by the DMCCB
    • see discussion RFC-537
      • Kian-Tat Lim this is still valid, even if the stab packages are conda packages now
    • The problem is when a pkg is added to the env, existing pkgs will change their version, in order to keep consistency in the environment.
      • this pull out a set of differences that need to be approved by the DMCCB
      • Kian-Tat Lim suggests that a new RFC for this is not required, since this is the result of an impact analysis
  • Tim Jenness Arch team, before moving the RFC to board recommend, need to provide the changes that a new package is generating in the environment. This will permit the CCB to decide if an RFC introducing a new package can be approved or not
  • DMCCB agreed to board recommend RFC-720
  • John Swinbank asked if we should check if the env change breaks the external user code
    • Tim Jenness no, people usually pick a weekly and stick to it for months
    • Colin Slater  this is acceptable if it happens not so often
    • Tim Jenness due to the use of conda-forge, we can't do puctual updates
    • Kian-Tat Lim the idea is to move the environment in a conda metapackage, and this probably makes possible to pin back some package in the the environemtn
    • Wil O'Mullane CCB needs to be aware that somebody may be affected when other packages changes
  • RFC-719, is not under the radar of the DMCCB
  • RFC-718 
    • this requires a new Jenkins job
  • RFC-712, KT to look at it
  • RFC-703 to move end date to Aug30

Adopted RFCs without Triggering issues

(to create implementing DM issues)

  • RFC-714 - Getting issue details... STATUS

Adopted RFCs with all triggered work COMPLETED

(to set status as 'IMPLEMENTED')



RFCs adopted since last CCB

(to review, no action required)

  • RFC-715 - Getting issue details... STATUS
  • RFC-714 - Getting issue details... STATUS
  • RFC-717 - Getting issue details... STATUS
  • RFC-716 - Getting issue details... STATUS

RFCs implemented (or withdraw) since last CCB

(to review, no action required)

  • RFC-717 - Getting issue details... STATUS


Releases

  • Planned
  • Changes to the release schedule
  • Next planned Release 21.0.0
    • Tentative schedule: November 2020

Monitor Jira issues status:

  • the most forgotten 10 DM issues
    • (resolution = Unresolved ORDER by updated asc)

Support to J. Swinbank monitoring activity.

  1. DM-9418 - Getting issue details... STATUS
  2. DM-2351 - Getting issue details... STATUS
  3. DM-9442 - Getting issue details... STATUS
  4. DM-9444 - Getting issue details... STATUS
  5. DM-9445 - Getting issue details... STATUS
  6. DM-9399 - Getting issue details... STATUS
  7. DM-9436 - Getting issue details... STATUS
  8. DM-9454 - Getting issue details... STATUS
  9. DM-9469 - Getting issue details... STATUS
  10. DM-9393 - Getting issue details... STATUS

3905 unresolved issues (3887 on July the29th)

Preassess before the CCB starts

  • DM-9418 — reassigned to Architecture team.
  • DM-2351 — needs a comment from Architecture.
  • DM-9469 — needs a comment from the SUIT team.
  • DM-9393 — added comment.


During CCB:

Open Actions

AOB

John Swinbank : Should changes to the scipipe_conda_env require an RFC? My reading of RFC-537 is that they should (although that RFC has only been adopted, not implemented). Does that still hold in the new Conda regime?

discussed above with RFC-720

Next DM-CCB August the 19th (next ween PCW)


Pending Flagged RFCs

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Oldest issues

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Meeting outcome


Pending DMCCB Actions

DescriptionDue dateAssigneeTask appears on
John SwinbankDMCCB#64 (2020 - 09 - 16)
Wil O'MullaneDMCCB#64 (2020 - 09 - 16)
  • John Swinbankwrite a text to clarify when an RFC need to flag (DM-25191)
John SwinbankDMCCB#51 (2020 - 05 - 27)
  • Tim Jenness  to write a policy on how external code written by DM shall be handled.
Tim JennessDMCCB#51 (2020 - 05 - 27)